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Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  S8mm intermssion questions

I have been asked a few times over the years about S8mm intermissions, so my question to S8mm collectors is this: Is there enough interest in new intermission prints? The only place I can find that can do the work is Andec in Germany and they are not cheap. The prices are about as much as 16mm prints...but if there is enough interest in any of the following, we can have some S8mm negs made for a print run. The approximate lengths are for the 16mm negs...the S8mm would be about half in footage.

Some thoughts on what can be done are:

COLOR Astro Daters set: Coming Soon - Feature Presentation - Intermission (sold only as a set) guessing 40' my 16mm negs are not back form the lab yet

B&W Bambi Meets Godzilla this is a string of 5 prints which I would cut into sections apx 306' (or about 61' each)

COLOR Welcome Opener & either the matching 5 or 10 minute Refreshment Time Clock apx 40' for opener apx 215' for 5 min. clock apx 380 for 10 min. clock

B&W 10 minute Hungry Dwarf clock apx 380'

COLOR Let's All Go To The Lobby apx 30'

COLOR 7-UP intermission (similar to Let's All Go To The Lobby) apx 27'

COLOR Precious Images (source material from a reversal is grainy & color is so-so) apx 290'

COLOR sold as set only: apx 445'
#200 – Refreshment Time. Time out for a delicious snack. Animated – 13 sec.
#201 – Animated musical instruments – refreshments/snack bar – Dr. Pepper – 1 min. 30 sec.
#202 – B&W – drive-in Safety Rules w/musical background – 27 sec.
#203 – B&W Leaving Now---Replace Speaker---Exit This Way – 7 sec.
#204 – Go Out To A Movie – 8 sec.
#205 – Late Show Fri. & Sat. – 5 sec.
#206 – National Anthem – w/subtitles – tinted – various images – 1min. 7 sec.
#207 – “SHORT INTERMISSION” image of snack bar- music background – 16 sec.
#208 – ROCKET SHIP TO PLANETS cartoon of rocket flying off to planets for snack bar goodies w/good color – 42 sec. ’
#209 – Ad for flea market at drive-in – 70’s – 48 sec.
#210 – Previews of Coming Attractions – 70’s style psychedelic swirls w/music – 16 sec.
#211 – Intermission – 70’s style psychedelic swirls w/music – 16 sec.
#212 – singing “INTERMISSION QUARTET” nice color & sound – 40 sec.
#213 – CANDY FACTORY ELVES – animated intermission cartoon of Elves making goodies for the snack bar – 45 sec.
#214 – DeCiccos Bon Bons – animated cartoon making Bon Bons – entertaining ad – 38 sec.
#215 – FEATURE PRESENTATION – w/music, night time on big drive-in screen – 13 sec.
#216 – B&W ALSO SELECTED SHORT SUBJECTS – w/music – 11 sec.
#217 – NATIONAL ANTHEM – flag & subtitles – 1 min. 10 sec.
#162 – MARTIAN VISITOR – snack bar intermission – 55 sec.
#218 – NO SMOKING – 70’s style psychedelic swirls & silent – 6 sec.
#219 – PLUS 2ND GREAT HIT – 70’s style psychedelic swirls & silent – 8 sec.
#220 – STARTS FRIDAY – 70’s style psychedelic swirls & silent – 8 sec.

COLOR sold as set only: apx 270'
#900 – Planet Hollywood – Coca Cola space ship launch – “Always in the movies” all sides of image hard masked – 51 sec.
#700 – Let’s All Go To The Lobby intermission spot – 43 sec.
#901 – Planet Dullzon (after the cola wars) – Dr. Pepper parody mix of seems like Star Wars and Mad Max – 1 min. 30 sec.
#902 – SUPER FLICK – Talking BIC lighters – Should have gone to the drive-in (to light up) – Visit our refreshment
stand in between flicks – INTERMISSION – 1 min. 6 sec.
#903 – FEATURE PRESENTATION – Talking Bic Lighters – SMOKING PERMITTED IN THE OUTER LOBBY ONLY. – 55 sec.
#904 – 4 feature title tag set – Red curtains with feature titles & background music – “Legend of Witch Hollow” “Naked Witch” “Revenge of the Living Dead” “What” – 26 sec.
#905 – PREVIEWS OF COMING ATTRACTIONS – colorful – Bic lighter w/dark background white letters (otherwise same as #906) – smoking permitting in designated areas only. – 23 sec.
#906 – PREVIEWS OF COMING ATTRACTIONS – colorful – Bic lighter w/white background black letters (otherwise same as #905) – smoking permitting in designated areas only – mild pre-print wear – 23 sec.

mostly COLOR some B&W sold as set only: apx 600'
#300 – ARMOUR FRANKS – “watch for drive-in ads” then ad for ARMOUR FRANKS – 53 sec.
#301 – ARMOUR FRANKS – “applaud the hero & hiss the villain” ARMOUR FRANKS ad “intermission – 1 min. 2 sec.
#302 – be happy, play LUCKY – 10 winners 2 jackpots B&W – 23 sec.
#303 – HIRES ROOTBEER cartoon – Romeo & Juliet – 51 sec.
#304 – TODDY CHOCOLATE MALT – Baseball Joe cartoon – 46 sec.
#305 – TODDY CHOCOLATE MALT – Rodeo Joe cartoon – 43 sec.
#306 – ARMOUR FRANKS – “welcome to your local drive-in” ARMOUR FRANKS ad “intermission” – 1 min. 2 sec.
#307 – snack bar refreshments – “intermission ORANGE NEHI” + “added attraction ROYAL CROWN COLA” – 1 min. 2 sec.
#308 – ARMOUR FRANKS – “grand preview” ARMOUR FRANKS ad “intermission” – 58 sec.
#309 – generic ATTENTION “may embarrass…..no preview” – 25 sec.
#310 – FLASH…LOOK…HOTEST THING YOU HAVE EVER SEEN…goes into a film burning meltdown. Add some clear leader and watch your crowd’s reaction!!! – 25 sec.
#311 – B&W intro for 3-D (not in 3-D) AMAZING STORY – 21 sec.
#312 – Painters – Coke & Sprite intermission – 1 min. 2 sec.
#313 – 3 min. intermission tag – goodies in rainbow & clouds – 23 sec.
#314 – “FLAVOS SHRIMP ROLLS” – 21 sec.
#315 – Music, flashing lights, disco style, (Zeigfeild Follies – Jazza-Doo - & more flash the screen) makes a good intermission filler segment – 1min. 10 sec.
#316 – tag set “AND” “SATURDAY” “PLUS” color – 18 sec.
#317 – HAPPY HOLIDAYS…ENJOY A MOVIE – 35 sec.
#318 – TALKING BIC LIGHTERS intermission with blinking “INTERMISSION” tag at end – 58 sec.
#319 – WIZARD OF OZ trailer – WB’s 75th anniversary special edition – 1998 re-issue – SCOPE – 1 min. 48 sec.

Any thoughts?

Author:  Dan Lail [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: S8mm intermssion questions

Wayne, what would the ballpark price range be on these? Anyway you could make some digests or are there copyright problems?

Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: S8mm intermssion questions

Dan, I added the apx footage count that I have for the 16mm negs. The footage would be about half for the S8mm.
Here is a link that has the pricing. Keep in mind I do not have magnetic audio, only optical, so a magnetic track would have to be created which would be a bit more (not sure how much)

scroll down to see the 16mm to 8mm prices. http://www.andecfilm.de/assets/pdfs/pr_6.pdf
Their prices are in meters, so use the Kodak calculator to figure meters to feet....etc.
http://motion.kodak.com/motion/Template ... our=FFFFFF

You can take the footage for the 16mm to get time, then convert the time to S8mm & meters.

I would obviously need enough extra to cover the neg work...so more prints of the same thing would drive the overall costs down.

As for making digests, are you referring to other films? I don't have the elements for anything else, & I would guess that editing would be a killer in price considering I just forked out $1200.00 for 4 minutes worth of editing/sound/negs in finished work in 16mm.

Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: S8mm intermssion questions

Cross anything less than 130' off the list to start...can't afford the editing to bring it up to the minimum meters required.

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