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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:29 pm 
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A scope print of GWTW? Actually there is one. I ran it at the Jasper 8 cinema years ago at the last rerelease. It was an incredibly rare Technicolor 35mm release and seemed really redundant to show. It was the '65 flat showing in scope on 35 with digital stereo simulated sound. It was a beautiful print but cropped for 1.85-1 theater release and threw away part of the actual image so it does exist but only in 35mm format and as far as I know every copy was destroyed. Not too far a cry from reality because it did exist at one point but no prints should still exist. Also the real prints had DTS and Dolby Digital encoding on the prints.


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There's a gap in my knowledge.
GWTW was filmed in 1.37 - how could there be a Scope print?
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GWTW was filmed in 1.37 - how could there be a Scope print?

Don't know how it was done, but Erik is right. Somehow they made prints in a scope aspect. Same thing with Wizard Of Oz. You can find the scope trailer of WOZ on youtube. Back when stereo records came out, some of the previous mono records were re released in stereo. It would read on the album jacket "Electronically enhanced For Stereo". What the engineers did was add reverb and re equalized the audio spectrum, then pan the altered frequencies across the left and right channels. It sounded awful. Record collectors avoid those releases.

Wayne Tuell has a scope trailer of OZ. I think that is probably his trailer on youtube.

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Well...fancy that!!
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I'm off to Nitrateville to get the lowdown on it...

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I have the Derann trailer for GWTW where the narrator boasts 'Now in the splendour [splendor USA] of 70mm and stereophonic sound.
A re-issue from the 1970s I think. The trailer itself is 1.37:1 format


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The last reply is right. The 70mm theater copy was in full frame. When I worked at the theater part time we had the option from technicolor of two films. Either a very wierd full frame print, it was a 1-1.37 print on flat or a scope print either showing at 1-37 or cropped in scope to show at 1.65 with black bars on the side. The scope 1-37 full frame but scope prints were actually sent on IB tech for the first time in years. The cropped 1.65 prints were on Eastman. The theater I was working at opted for the full-frame print shown by scope, I used my favorite lens the Sankor Scope 7, and arrived on IB Tech B&W colored print with Dolby Digital and DTS sound. The picture was beautiful but the sound as Dan put it wasn't so good. Was kind of like dropping a speaker in a trash can. The main argument here is that it was released in scope but the frame size was reduced. This was from the last release of GWTW. An anaversary edition. Some way to relive it.
Wow. Sorry that I brought up a brand new argument. Hahaha. By the way, the 70mm transfer was also IB Tech or dye transfer and very rare to preserve the original negatives.


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I have to think the scope trailers for Wizard were made just to show with scope features to avoid lens changing during screenings. I do have a scope 16mm trailer, and put a video on youtube. You can see a little cropping on the top & bottom of the image when they made it originally in 35mm. Sort of a hack job IMHO. I actually wish I had a flat version of the re-release trailer.

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