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Mike O'Regan · **Joined:** Thu May 26, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 732

Dan Lail wrote:

Well, I spoke with the person for whom reel-ality is selling the films. This person said he sent the films to reel-ality on reels. reel-ality stated he received the films off reels without cores.

Are you serious?

So, Osi received GWTW on reels????

But, he plainly stated, regarding this print:

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In this case I got it cored, but just to show my determination to sell something proper, I actually had to "uncore" each and every reel with my one empty 600ft reel, just to test each reel and make sure it was in prime condition.

If what you've heard is true, Dan, then Osi's statement is a blatant lie!

Dan Lail · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:42 pm

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If what you've heard is true, Dan, then Osi's statement is a blatant lie!

It is a lie. The owner of Gone With The Wind and other films send to reel-ality verified he sent them to reel-ality on reels!

Mike O'Regan · **Joined:** Thu May 26, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 732

Well....I'm kinda lost for words. After all that business on the other forums with everybody taking Osi's side to the point of the threads being shut down....and now absolute proof that he's been lying from the start.

:sad:

Dan Lail · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:14 pm

The owner of these films has asked to be anonymous, but maybe he will step forward soon.

It is a shame the way we were dragged through the mud just for seeking simple answers to disturbing claims. Wish I had this info before threads were deleted or locked on the other forums. I ran across this person by accident while inquiring about films for sale.

Dan Lail · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:27 pm

Steve K. wrote.....

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Is the saving on shipping cost really worth it if you need to buy reels after you receive the film

Steve, not sure if you were following the posts on the other forums about Osi's coring machine and what it
was used for, but here is a quick catch up:
Early on in these posts, Osi stated he received the recent features he is selling for another person off reels.
He is saying that he received the films with no reels and no cores. He also stated he had no reels(he had
1 x 600', 2 x 200') and no cores. Now I am finding out from the person who owns these features that he
shipped these films to Osi on reels.

As far as storing Super 8mm on cores, gee that is a lot of work. Most features do come on reels, so why
not keep them on there, especially if the reels are plastic. It is just part of the high cost of being a film
collector.

Steve Klare · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:08 pm **Posts:** 138

It's actually a general question, because given the weight of many 35mm or 16mm reels I understand why the shipping cost would be less, but I'm curious how it would benefit a typical collector who to my mind will want the film on reels anyway.

Does the decreased cost of shipping more than make up for the cost of a new reel or do some collectors maintain some of their collections on cores? I could see that in a very large collection where there are films that might not go on screen for several years at a time.

I often don't know what I'm going to watch 30 minutes before the lights go down, so I need more random access than transferring cored film onto reels ahead of the fact could allow.

Mike O'Regan · **Joined:** Thu May 26, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 732

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It's actually a general question, because given the weight of most 35mm or 16mm reels I understand why the shipping cost would be less, but I'm curious how it would benefit a typical collector who to my mind will want the film on reels anyway.

I agree. Being mainly a 16mm collector I sometimes ask for a print to be cored if I'm getting it from the US. It does drop shipping quite a bit in some cases.
But, once I receive the print it goes up on reels and stays there.
Back in my projectionist days, I got very used to handling 35mm prints with no centres - I don't think I dropped even one in 5yrs - but I just don't like handling 16mm off reel.
There is no way I'd want to deal with Super 8 on cores. It's not a practice I ever even heard of prior to the recent issue.

Dan Lail · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Steve, the cost of shipping 16mm or 35mm overseas could be reduced especially if you could get the cored films in a
Flat Rate Box. I cannot speak for storing 35mm as most of my collection is 16mm, Super 8mm and Std 8mm. I
do not store any of my gauges on cores because I have film shows often and want everything to be instantly
accessible for viewing. Some of our film shows consist of showing random films on a whim.

Since 8mm split reels are rare. I think Larry can make an 800' split reel on request. Then finding the cores
could be a bit difficult. It's just too much trouble, and for such a narrow gauge, the film could be rather
fragile unless you taped it between two pieces of cardboard. The majority of Super 8 features are on 1200'
reels. Once again, too much work for me.

Steve Klare · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 1:08 pm **Posts:** 138

I would guess in a typical modern theatrical settup the film would go from cores to the platter and then back and might never see a reel, true?

I'd have to want a S8 print really badly to accept it like that. I can imagine waiting until I was alone in the house to deal with it too (no distractions!).

I would imagine a couple of hundred feet of film could get pretty lively if released into the wild that way!

Mal Brake · **Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:46 pm

Steve Klare wrote:

Is the saving on shipping cost really worth it if you need to buy reels after you receive the film, or do you keep some of your films on cores and only reel them occasionally when you watch them?

I could see doing this with films you watch rarely, and of course it's worth it if you have a stash of empty reels in the first place.

Let's not forget that this print of GWTW wasn't on cores of any sort, so transferring them would have been a nightmare for most collectors.

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