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Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Kinescope??? how to know???

What do you look for to be sure you have a Kinescope?

This is one topic I don't recall seeing discussed before and I'd like to learn a bit about it if anybody can be the teacher. [set5_b/set5_b/hat.gif]
I thinkI'm looking at one right now, but I'm not positively sure.

Author:  Dan Lail [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

Wow! That is a good question. Wasn't the film footage shot from a TV screen/monitor? Sometimes the early ones look squeezed from top to bottom and you can see the horizon lines on resolution. I have noticed they have a similar appearance of new films made from videos.

Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

is there also sometimes a sort of halo type shadow around people?

Author:  Dan Lail [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

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is there also sometimes a sort of halo type shadow around people?


I don't recall seeing that effect on any of the prints I have. I kines from the 1950s and 1960s into the early 1970s.

Author:  Wayne Tuell [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

I watched the VS print I posted about the other day... I noticed a slight halo at times. AND some horizontal lines which seemed odd, AND the corners were a bit cropped almost as if it was being filmed off of a t.v. monitor. In some but not all of the shots, the people did look a bit compressed too.

Overall the thing was boring. It was made for channel 11 in Chicago teaching people how to be really aggressive (demanding) when begging for donations.

Author:  Mike O'Regan [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

I reckon if it looks like it was filmed from a TV monitor, then it probably was. Would that be fair to say? It's a fairly characteristic look.

Author:  Jeff Missinne [ Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Kinescope??? how to know???

The "halo" effect does occur in some older kinescopes; especially with people with light blonde or white hair. (Art Baker, the host of YOU ASKED FOR IT, seemed especially subject to this problem!) Also, if you can examine the film on an editing scope, there will sometimes be a single frame where the previous and next scene appear to overlap. This was probably caused by the shutter on the film camera being open just at the moment the TV director switched from one TV camera to another.

Of course, "kinnies" were recordings of live broadcasts; the easiest way of all to identify them may be that they sometimes contain flubbed lines, wobbly camera shots, the mike that dips into the picture, and all the other bloopers live broadcasts were occasionally subject to.

I have on DVD one kinescoped mystery drama where a woman is supposedly alone in a spooky old house...and there"s a crewman with a headset and clipboard standing in an open doorway behind her...and a suit-sleeved arm enters the shot to pull him out of the picture!

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