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 Post subject: 3 year v.s. treatment
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Starting from the beginning, several years ago ('05) I purchased a print of Mary Queen of Tots. The fleabay seller forgot to mention TWO very important details.
#1 detail left out was this particular print was narrated instead of a music track.
#2 V.S. At first I thought it was in great condition and the seller just cleaned films with Vita-Film...

Fast forward a couple years and I realize now the Vita-Film was just a mask for the v.s. smell, and I put the film away with the other V.S. films. Fast forward a couple more years and I decide to do a Vita-Film treatment. I submerge the film in a can, seal it, and set it aside to rest just to open the can about every 6 months to check on things and change out the Vita-Film once in a while. Fast forward to this weekend, I open the can and give the film a cleaning/drying. The film still has a little warp after 3 years of soaking, not a lot of dirt came off since the last person cleaned it to mask the v.s. smell. I noted that the tape splices in the head leader let go with no effort, but the tail leader splice stayed intact. I'm still puzzled as to why the splice did not lift. Also, there is still a faint smell of V.S., not that I really expected the claims of curing V.S. to really be true, I did expect the smell to be "hidden" because I have done the same thing with worse films and the smell was not present again for many months.

Some things about V.S. I will never understand. Why would a film that has v.s. so bad the smell would bring tears to your eyes, then get a good long soaking & cleaning not have a v.s. smell for months after being stored right back in a can....then take a film with with a mild v.s. smell still have the mild v.s. smell after soaking for 3 years and cleaning?

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 Post subject: Re: 3 year v.s. treatment
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:07 am 
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Wow! Three years and you'd think the smell would disappear for a while. Why did you put it back in a can? Wouldn't you want it to off gas? i've never soaked a film, but have cleaned quite a few with Film Renew and Film Guard. Film Guard I mostly use to keep super 8 prints from jumping in the gate and temporarily get ride of base scratches. So when your Mary Queen Of Tots dried out, did it project well?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:10 pm 
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I put it back in the can because it is a P.O.S. film being narrated and I really didn't/don't care what happens to it.

I'm going to run it pretty soon through the transfer machine while I shake the bugs out of it so I'll get back with you on how it runs. I figure if THIS film gets torn up I am not out anything important.

FilmGuard is good stuff IMHO. I had an ST with several small "issues" which combined would sometimes, not always, cause the film to move in the gate just enough to show the edge of the sprockets on screen. When I ran the same films though the Film-O-Clean with FilmGuard, it was just enough to make the film project proper. Not to mention cleaning & hiding base marks.

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Little update: I ran the film through the TP-66 today. Even putting a half twist on the take-up reel the film still had some sag and bag to it, and lost its loop right at the last few frames of the ending. :cry:

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http://youtu.be/afb5hyDjI1w

Here is the finished transfer of the film in question. [set5_b/set5_b/dupe.gif]

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