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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:49 am 
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I dug out an Bell & Howell 3585 Auto Load this evening and decided to get it working. I performed the usual greasing and belt replacing, but there was this one little clicking sound in the feed sprocket. As the test film ran through the front sprocket I noticed a slight jump every rotation. Things like this drive me crazy. [set5_b/set5_b/toetap05.gif] I backed out the screw and removed the metal sprocket wheel. Holding it to the light I didn't see any missing teeth. Looking closer with a magnifying glass I saw the sharp tips on two of the teeth were curled over on the tips. I ran my finger nail over them and could feel the bent tips. Using a small file I gently filed the curls off. After re-installing the sprocket my Eiki runs quiet and smooth.

How in the heck did those metal sprockets get bent? [set5_b/set5_b/willy_nilly.gif]

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Sorry, I can't answer your question, Dan. However, I am interested in which model is the 3585?

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Mike, I made a mistake in my original post. It is not an Eiki, it is a Bell & Howell 3585. I will post pix later today.

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Ah, I wasn't sure if the Eikis had different models over there in the US. I know that B&H bought out Eiki at some point - is that correct?

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In 1974 EIKI opened EIKI International, Inc. to distribute its products in the United States.
In 1986, the Company acquired the business unit of the Bell & Howell company that had originated the audio visual industry some 50 years earlier. In 1988, EIKI Canada was created as a subsidiary of EIKI International, Inc.

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Ah, I thought there was some involvement between Eiki and B&H. Thanks for the clarification, Richard?

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Greetings Mike
Thank you
Also i enjoy your music,
The B&H 3580 and the 3575 is really a Eiki projector
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Greetings Dan
The bent tips are caused by wear those sprockets due wear out over time.
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Richard C Patchett wrote:
Also i enjoy your music,

Thanks, Rich. Very kind.
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I had a 3575 in my time. It didn't look at all like the Eiki projector released here in the US so I didn't know the companies were ever connected. I thought Eiki and Elmo were the same 16mm projector since they are identical except for the case color. At that time B&H's and Eiki's were jet black while the Elmo's were gray front and black backs. Also, the 3575 was more of an upright projector. Not clear as to how the models are the same.
As far as the damage, Dan, are you sure this wasn't a damage caused by physical manipulation? I have never seen even a worn projector get damaged by the film. It's hard to imagine that celulose film can bend a steel gear. I've dealt with plenty of used and abused projectors and plenty of school and library model B&H's, Eiki's and other off brand well-worn projectors but have never seen a single one damaged by the film they ran.


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